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| Posted by invincible1 mailcafe.net 5/08/2005 05:13:06 Play online chess |  Subject: Sicilian Najdorf question:Message: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Nb-d7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.O-O-O b5 10.Bd3 Bb7 11.Rh-e1 Be7 12.Qg3 b4 13.Nd5 exd5 14.e5 dxe5 15.fxe5 Nh5 16.e6 Nxg3 17.exf7+ Kxf7 18.Rxe7+ Kg8 19.hxg3 And here I always thought the forced continuation for both sides was : 19....Qxg3 20. Ne6 Qe5 21. Rf1 Nf8 22. Bf5 Bc8 23. Re8 Kf7 24. Re7+ Kg8 1/2 - 1/2. I all along believed that any side to deviate from the 19th move would lose! However, recently, harpov played 19.....h6!? and crushed me!!! Well there is a difference of rating between him and me ;-), however, I still was really surprised and shocked by his move and even more so when I could not even draw let alone win! I searched in some online database but did not find his novelty 19....h6 anywhere!!! Have any of you encountered this move before? What is the correct way for white to respond?? My game with him continued : 19.hxg3 h6 20.Bf4 Qd8 21.Rd-e1 Nc5 22.Bg6 Qf8 23.Nf5 Bc8 24.Nxg7 Ne4 and soon I lost control and was routed!!! Any reply will be appreciated :-). Regards, invincible1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by alberlie mailcafe.net 5/08/2005 05:24:21 Play online chess | Message: but I didn*t find 19) ... h6 in my dbase either... | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net 5/08/2005 10:29:14 Play online chess | Hope the board is set up right, as ... Message: alberlie ... after your 27.Be5+ it looks like 27... KxBg6 28.BxRh8 etc is good for Black. invincible1 ... I noticed that instead of 20.Bf4 you could have still continued with 20.Ne6 instead, as in the mainline and your Bg5 is poison on move 21. So forces his 21.Qe5 as in the mainline to guard g7 without having gotten in Qxg3 first. Maybe there's something in that line for you? Also looking at 20.Rde1 but although 20...hxg5 loses to Ne6, 20...Qxg3 looks harder to meet here since 21.Nf5 QxBg5 gives BL enough for his Queen if Rxg7 follows. WT would win lines where BL tries 20...Qd6 21.Nf5 since 21...Qc6 would drop the Q back cheaply, or 21...Qg6 22.Nxh6+ WT comes out ahead materially tho BL has some insufficient activity. But Looks likes trouble may find WT also, if BL goes with 20...Qd8 {21.Ne6 Qxe7 gives BL enough} 21.Nf5 seems to fall short. But 21.Bf5 stops ...hxg5 or 22.Be6+. .*** Too tired to continue looking right now, but do want to say thanks for showing this interesting line ... It will give me an enjoyable Week , looking at it~! }8-) Regards, Craig ——— On Chess: Fischer's dexterity with game pieces was sight to see — While watching Bobby Fischer explain a chess position during a TV appearance a year or two before he became world chess champion, I witnessed a startling display. The chess pieces appeared as inseparable from his long and graceful fingers as a deck of cards from the hands of a riverboat gambler or a soccer ball from the feet of Pele. Perhaps no player has ever set up chess pieces and moved them in play and analysis as frequently as the chess-obsessed American prodigy did. In the recent Fischer biography Endgame, Frank Brady describes a 1960 demonstration of chess analysis by Fischer at a New York tavern using a worn wallet chess set: "The half-inch plastic pieces seemed to jump into place ... Posted by magna68 | mailcafe.net 5/10/2005 16:57:28 Play online chess 19. ..h6 scratch,scratch 25. ..Re8+!Message: Cheers Bjorn ——— Chess: Bishop's Gambit – the shock weapon — This little known variation on the King's Gambit is sharp and messy – and great fun. RB: The Bishop's Gambit variation of the King's Gambit isn't a common sight, but I have particular reason to know it. Many years ago the late human rights lawyer Larry Grant and I played a correspondence chess game, of sorts. I had White and I thought I'd catch Larry out with precisely this opening. I was being held at that time in Brixton prison and I would see Larry at the weekly remand hearing. We'd exchange moves, often in the holding cell below the court. I can still remember the grin on Larry's face when, instead of the queen check on h4 I'd been expecting, he played 3...f5. I'd never seen it before and ... Posted by ccmcacollister | mailcafe.net 5/10/2005 19:22:03 Play online chess invincible1 Message: then a WT win was overlooked. On move 23... Instead of your 23.Nxg7 just 23.Re8 looks like a win since WT threatens both 24.RxQf8+ Kxf8 25.Re8++# and immediate mate by 24.Ne7++# ... a delightful Knight Mate that's almost a "smoohered' mate. (Tho purists say the King must be surrounded by his own pieces, according to sources in the "smothered mates" thread.:). And 23...QxRe8 24.Rxe8++# . So of course the dual mate threats on different squares cant be countered. }8-) ——— Competitive Chess Boxing: Brain Meets Pain in Iceland — Two world-class competitors will battle it out in a boxing match in Iceland on Friday, with throngs of screaming fans cheering them on. In one corner will be Bjorn Jónsson, 42 years old but wily in his ways and with a devastating reach advantage over his opponent. Daniel Thordarson is a young, hard-nosed fighter and former Icelandic middleweight champion. After weeks of anticipation, these two rivals will finally meet head-to-head to see who punches harder, who has the desire to outlast the other, and whether the Tarrasch Defense can sufficiently counter a Queen’s Gambit. Wait, what was that last part? You see, Thordarson and Jónsson are 3-D digital artists at CCP Games, a major chess ... Posted by ccmcacollister | mailcafe.net 5/10/2005 19:31:30 Play online chess Oops, forgot to put the board #Message: ——— In Europe, Four Elite Chess Events Are Closing or in Trouble — Some of Europe’s greatest chess tournaments are disappearing, and others are in peril. Last month, the organizers of the Mainz Classic in Germany announced that they were closing it down. One of the most popular events on the chess calendar, the Mainz Classic included tournaments for rapid chess and Fischer Random Chess and world championships in both formats. The organizers said they could not line up enough sponsors to keep it going. The Linares and M-Tel Masters chess tournaments may meet similar ends. The M-Tel Masters was last held in May 2009. There was no tournament last year because M-Tel, the Bulgarian phone company that sponsors it, instead financed the world chess ... Posted by ccmcacollister | mailcafe.net 5/10/2005 19:36:49 Play online chess That should be ... Message: ——— Luke McShane continues fine form with strong showing at Reykjavik Open — Luke McShane, who impressed against the world elite in the London Classic, then won the Tata Steel B group in the Netherlands, had a near miss this week on 6.5/9, half a point behind the winners, in the Reykjavik Open. McShane took a philosophy and mathematics degree at Oxford, then became a City trader with Goldman Sachs for two years. Now, at 27, he has advanced up the world chess rankings and is close to the top 50 elite rated 2700 or above. The March issue of Chess magazine has an interesting interview where McShane explains his recent jump in form. The Classic and Tata forced him to prepare harder because "in such events you have to be exactly focused, else ... Posted by invincible1 | mailcafe.net 5/10/2005 23:13:42 Play online chess everyoneMessage: CCMC, thanks for all your messages. As for your last message suggesting 24.Re8, I think black defends both mate threats and wins after 24....Bxf5. BTW, how do you figure out the board number?? I have never known how to figure that out! magna68, thanks for your line. The funny thing is, I actualyl had analysed this line (as far as i remember) during the game! And somehow, even though I saw black has the bishop pair, I felt that I will lose eventually since he does have the h6 pawn still alive! However maybe it was drawable indeed. Yups, Nxg7 loses immediately indeed.. wonder what I was thinking.. I just "felt that Rxg7 (and this line) wasn't good, so I just threw in Nxg7 hoping for the 2300 player to goof up, lol! Hey, but more than your analysis, I am more interested in your comment " I think the whole variant is rather shaky for white, pretty bold to play this against plus 2300 player like harpov! ". What exactly does it take to beat you guys ;-)!? I have drawn many 2000+ players on this site, including my other game against harpov. However, beating any 2000+ player here seems very hard!! You suggest that may be it wasn't a good idea to play a shaky line against a top player. But I have always felt that, if I have to beat some so strong player, I have to find some line with too many complications even if dubious; my thinking is that in a regular routine game, I'll get crushed by superior planning skills of the 2300 opponent! Posted by magna68 | mailcafe.net 5/11/2005 12:13:58 Play online chess Bold play.Message: Talking about the sicilian then I think it's often just sucidal to let the stronger opponent have the opportunity to get into the razor sharp lines of the Najdorf. The massive theory existing about f.e the 6. Bg5 lines often makes the less stronger player "go down in flames" pretty quickly, one slip and you are blown off the table. And be sure of it, strong players (ala harpov) know those lines very well, and even more importantly the plans involved. Probably the two volume of "The complete Najdorf" by Nunn are then resting on the table next to him! :-) Playing the "english attack" against the Najdorf is likely more advisable rather than Bg5. It's "easier" to play (even though it's very sharp) and that explains its popularity. But best is probably just to play some of the anti-sicilian lines. They are almost all rock solid and can make your stronger opponent get pretty frustrated quickly! I for myself love the Najdorf (as you can see from my ongoing Najdorf mini tournament) and just hate when I get 2. c3, 3. c3 or 3. Bb5+ in the face from less strong players. Playing the solid lines might not be the most fun always, but in my mind they are more likely to be fruitful against stronger player than complications and blurry lines. And its your opponent that will have to dig much deeper and often take the risk. Posted by ccmcacollister | mailcafe.net 5/12/2005 00:54:54 Play online chess OOPs your right Message: I meant to say 24Rxg7 Qxg7 25.Re8+ Qf8 26.Ne7+ Kg7 27.Be5 ++# mate }8-) -grin Its a little longer but nicer anyway. ... there are several ways to get the board # I think but the only one I'm remembering right now is look up at your http when you go to the board. Um, oh yeah another is it should show up while the game is ongoing by clicking into that function where you can delay the showing of your game up to 5 move. I think it shows there too. Posted by ccmcacollister | mailcafe.net 5/12/2005 01:00:43 Play online chess oh no. Message: Posted by bogg | mailcafe.net 5/12/2005 23:25:29 Play online chess Craig Message: CTC (Bogg) Posted by invincible1 | mailcafe.net 5/15/2005 02:17:02 Play online chess thanks all againMessage: And thanks Craig and Bogg for your analysis. Bogg, your exact line was mentioned by Magna also above! Thanks to all. I guess the conclusion is I should try and think up of some other variation to play against the Najdorf!! Posted by bogg | mailcafe.net 5/15/2005 05:29:32 Play online chess oops Message: CTC (Bogg) |