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| Posted by giuco_piano_guy mailcafe.net 5/25/2005 16:33:06 play online chess |  Subject: Italian GameMessage: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb4+ How do you save the pawns on both d4 and e4? |
| Posted by misato mailcafe.net 5/25/2005 22:48:43 play online chess | 7. Bd2 looks natural Message: 7. Bd2 Nxe4 8. Bxb4 Nxb4 9. Bxf7+ Kxf7 10. Qb3+ and Black is in problems. 7. Bd2 Bxd2+ 8. Nxd2 Nxe4 9. Nxe4 d5 10. Qe2 0-0 11. 0-0-0 with Black getting back his piece in the end, but also okay for White. May the good moves be always with you. |
| Posted by indiana-jay mailcafe.net 5/26/2005 00:18:25 play online chess | Message: Taking e4 in general will open line for white’s kingside rook, and it is directly against the white’s king! Qb3 is a thematic move here. It gives pressure on the white’s king via the f7 pawn. Both sides must be prepared for this move as this can also fork black’s pieces. Black’s Na5 is a thematic move against Qb3. Another strategic thinking in Giuoco as white in closed variations (as is also in other games) imho is to have a flexibility of the pieces to shift the attack from queenside to kingside, by direct shifting of the bishop, the queen and the queenside rook. But this is more advanvce. Try to understand the concept behind gambit play (We sacrifice a pawn not for nothing, but for something, right?), then you can try or exercise with the gambit variation of the giuoco piano (b2-b4). In simpler word, don't care too much on pawn, all you need to think is: pressurize and attack! |
| Posted by indiana-jay mailcafe.net 5/26/2005 00:21:07 play online chess | typo errors Message: Taking e4 in general will open line for white’s kingside rook, and it is directly against the black’s king! White's Qb3 is a thematic move here. It gives pressure on the black’s king via the f7 pawn. Both sides must be prepared for this move as this can also fork black’s pieces. Black’s Na5 is a thematic move against white's Qb3. Another strategic thinking in Giuoco as white in closed variations (as is also in other games) imho is to have a flexibility of the pieces to shift the attack from queenside to kingside, by direct shifting of the bishop, the queen and the queenside rook. But this is more advanvce. Try to understand the concept behind gambit play (We sacrifice a pawn not for nothing, but for something, right?), then you can try or exercise with the gambit variation of the giuoco piano (b2-b4). In simpler word, don't care too much on pawn, all you need to think is: pressurize and attack! |
| Posted by indiana-jay mailcafe.net 5/26/2005 00:23:22 play online chess | Oh, I give up :D Message: |
| Posted by trond mailcafe.net 5/26/2005 12:04:43 play online chess | No way to save both e and d pawns Message: 7. Bd2 is another option, when you get the pawn on f7 for the pawn on e4. 7. Nc3 is another line that you might try, were you often will get the attack at the cost of a pawn. There are also many ways for black to mess up in this line, but if he/she knows theory black is fine and might get a small advantage (but I doubt that will happen often in your games). |
| Posted by trond mailcafe.net 5/26/2005 12:16:02 play online chess | One correction Message: |
| Posted by indiana-jay mailcafe.net 5/26/2005 20:05:18 play online chess | trond, Message: |
| Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net 5/27/2005 00:17:48 play online chess | Is Giuoco analyzed to death ? Message: * * * * * I would groan even in blitz games when 3.Bc4 was played when I was relying on 3...Bc5 in reply, and just hope it would be an Evans Gambit which interests me more... not a Giuoco. And its lines with d3 instead of c3 are even more tedious to me. So after wading thru many BL lines of the Two Knights that I don't care for, finally found one that I do like. If you can get a higher rated player to enter a drawish var it may be beneficial in getting them to overplay the position trying to win. Sometimes boring a high-rated player may be of advantage to you then, but on the other-hand they may decide it would be 'interesting' to "test" their opponent for 120 moves when in a position they know they cant lose if they dont overplay it. That can be unpleasant. Especially over 2 years in a true Postal game! ... }8-) But on the other-other-hand, if you want to reach an endgame and try your skills out there . . . * * * * Back in the 70's when I studied the Giuoco; most common was 7.Nc3 and 7.Bd2 was considered the less risky alternative. But in the Nc3 line 7...Nxe4 and capturing all the way thru with ...Nxc3 ...Bxc3 ... Bxa1 was winning for WT. Too greedy. Unless some improvement has shown up (if anyone was working on it ??! :) |
| Posted by giuco_piano_guy mailcafe.net 5/27/2005 05:41:57 play online chess | Message: |
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