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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net 10/03/2005 05:27:40 Play online chess	Subject: Point Count Chess Message: Does anyone remember this book..."point Count Chess" from the 70's or early 80's ?\It intrigued me but i never got it. Just wondering what it was about (because i recently read an article trying to assign numerical values (eg. partial pawn, like 1/2 pawn, etc) to positional aspects like the two bishops. Wonder if book was a forerunner? Welcome comments about the book, the article or the concept(s). Or any valuation system attempts ...
Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net 10/03/2005 05:40:52 Play online chess	ps// Message: Cant find the article now. Probably saw it in forums ahile back, but not sure.
Posted by bucklehead mailcafe.net 10/03/2005 13:59:29 Play online chess	Sounds like a computer program Message: My first thought was that this idea sounded pretty much exactly like computer analysis, but dumbed-down for the carbon-based among us. My second, and more considered and charitable, was that the thing it really sounds like is the point system you use in Bridge to assess the value of your hand for bidding. That would certainly be the more interesting possibility. Anyway, I found a couple of links: -> www.amazon.com -> chessb.demonweb.co.uk (bottom of page) My sense from other sites and reviews is that it's a useful introduction to what constitutes a positional weakness or strength, but not so valuable as a straight "what to play" algorithm.
Posted by wschmidt mailcafe.net 10/04/2005 11:32:27 Play online chess	Craig, Message: I read the book years ago. The reviewer at Amazon provides a pretty good summary. His bottom line is mine as well - applying the point-count system in actual play is not realistic (although it's more realistic for correspondence play that OTB), but as a text illustrating the basics of positional chess the book is excellent. I dropped out of chess for many years and have only recently returned to it in the last couple of years. "Point Count Chess" is on my list of books to work through as I try to understand the game a little better.
Posted by thunker mailcafe.net 10/04/2005 13:05:41 Play online chess	Positional value Message: Dr. Hans Berliner addresses this type of valuation in his book "My System" (not to be confused with Nimzovich's "The System".) Of course, Berliner was a professor at Carnegie Mellon teaching AI type stuff and did a lot of developing of both chess and backgammon playing algorithms. In the book, he gives a lot of guidelines of valuing not only the piece, but the piece's position.
Posted by wulebgr mailcafe.net 10/06/2005 06:06:03 Play online chess	I've heard of that book Message: <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0"> <meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document"> <title>New Page 1</title> </head> <body> <p>Andrew Soltis came out with a new book last year, <i>Rethinking the Chess Pieces</i>. In the first chapter he reviews many schemes that people have developed to put a value on the pieces. The instruction that follows then shows the flaws in all such systems, while providing a lot of useful tactical and position knowledge. I fell upon the book after it was recommended to me by an International Master; his advice is usually worth hearing.</p> </body> </html>
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