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| From | Message | Posted by alberlie
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10/18/2005
13:50:20
Play online chess |  Subject: How is this a threefold rep.?
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1. d4 e6 2. c4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. e3 Nbd7 7. Bd3 dxc4 8.
Bxc4 a6 9. O-O b5 10. Bd3 Bb7 11. Rc1 Nb6 12. Re1 Rc8 13. Bxf6 Bxf6 14. Ne4
Be7 15. Nc5 Bxf3 16. gxf3 Bd6 17. Nb7 Qg5+ 18. Kh1 Qh4 19. Nxd6 cxd6 20. Qd2
Nc4 21. Bxc4 bxc4 22. f4 d5 23. Rg1 Qh5 24. Rg5 Qf3+ 25. Rg2 Rb8 26. Kg1 Rb7
27. Rg3 Qh5 28. b3 cxb3 29. Rb1 bxa2 30. Qxa2 Rxb1+ 31. Qxb1 Ra8 32. Kg2 Qe2
33. Qb7 Rf8 34. Qe7 Qd3 35. Qg5 Qe4+ 36. f3 Qc2+ 37. Kh3 Qg6 38. Qxg6 hxg6
39. Rg1 a5 40. Ra1 Ra8 41. Ra4 Kh7 42. Kh4 Kh6 43. h3 f5 44. Kg3 Kh5 45. h4
Ra6 46. Kh3 Kh6 47. Kg3 Kh7 48. h5 gxh5 49. Kh4 Kg6 50. Kg3 Kf6 51. Kh4 g6
52. Kg3 g5 53. fxg5+ Kxg5 54. f4+ Kf6 55. Kh4 Kg6 56. Kg3 Kh6 57. Kh4 Ra8
58. Ra3 a4 59. Kh3 Kg6 60. Kh4 Kh6 61. Kh3 Kh7 62. Kh4 Kh6 63. Kh3
1/2 - 1/2
Sorry guys, I probably go blind, but where's the third rep.?
| Posted by gajolen
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10/18/2005
14:26:50
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The position have been the same 3 times in the game. Remember it dosent have to be 3 times on a row. Just 3 times where the board has the same position is enough to be draw, by 3 fold repetition.
In your game the position after 58 ..a4. 60 ..Kh6, and 62 ..Kh6 are all identical, hence 3 fold repetition.
| Posted by magna68
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10/18/2005
14:30:44
Play online chess | Clearly a threefold rep.
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White can "claim" draw here when moving 63. Kh3 getting the same position as in move 59 and 61. I hope you are not going blind, but this is very obvious.
cheers
Bjorn
| Posted by alberlie
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10/18/2005
15:02:46
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uhm, errr, I got confused somehow. I know that it hasn't have to be three in a row, but somehow I thought, that it's only after "completed moves". Such, that I would have to complete move 63 and set the king once more on h6. Well, probably I didn' think at all ;o)
| Posted by velvetvelour
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10/18/2005
19:27:15
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The exact wording of the rule is: "Draw by three-fold repetition of position," which is exactly how it sounds.
| Posted by ccmcacollister
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10/19/2005
02:35:35
Play online chess | Alberlie ...
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Hi! Might I ask a question of you(?) , as I have never had a 3-fold-rep draw occur on GK, so am wondering if you could tell me how the draw mechanism operated ?
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Was it that immedicately upon your making of the move 63.Kh3 , the system informed you that the game was drawn (so it did it without any claim of draw on your part?)
Or did the move 63.Kh3 actually go to your opponent as normal, and sometime later you were notified that the game drew due to 3x rep? (As if perhaps your opponent had to get the position after your move 63 and then make a claim that HIS intended 63rd move would produce the 3rd rep. ? )
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Or perhaps I'm wrong to assume it to be a GK game ... ?
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Thanks for any more info you may kindly provide re this.
Regards, CraigAC }8-)
| Posted by alberlie
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10/19/2005
05:04:49
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Well, it's not a gk-game. However, I have experienced the draw-mechanism here on gk. As far as I can recall, the system informs you that you have the right to claim a draw and gives you the opportunity to do so (via link). In that former game I made use of that right. However, I guess you can just as well play on if you wish.
If there's insufficient mating material, the game is automatically drawn. You can't influence that. In that case, the message from gk is "Game drawn (dead position)".
Haven't had the questionable pleasure to experience the 50-move rule by myself yet... ;o)
btw: that above draw was imposed on me - I was black and would have liked to play on for a bit more... :o) Shame on me *g
btwII: You do know that flying damages the ozon-layer, don't you? That happens even if the flying is done in the name of eternal and freshly found love. And, crossing the ocean by canoe is a much stronger proof of said love... :o)))
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