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Posted by anaxagoras mailcafe.net 10/26/2005 12:09:33 play online chess	Subject: Qg3(g6) + Bh6(h3) is pathetic Message: In so many of my games people attempt the Qg3 + Bh6 or Qg6 + Bh3 attack on the castled King, and it is so pathetic! Not only is the tactic facile and easy to defeat, but it decentralizes the attackers forces. I'm going to choke on my pity...
Posted by nottop mailcafe.net 10/26/2005 15:31:02 play online chess	well, that depends Message: on the position doesn't it? If it's a hope the opponent will overlook basic defense, then it's not really very sophisticated. But perhaps the motives run deeper. Perhaps the attack is simply designed to provoke a weakness on the kingside. If Qg3 and Bh6 cause g6, and if g6 can be answered by h4 ,and if white can place his knights aggressively, then maybe it's not such a bad plan. This motif has been played by most of the world champions. Maybe the idea is to force black to bring pieces to the kingside and then switch focus. Chess is comlex. Like I said it depends on the position.
Posted by anaxagoras mailcafe.net 10/26/2005 19:56:19 play online chess	Message: obviously, it can be a correct tactic. My opponents often attempt it before they've even brought their pieces out to attack the center.
Posted by loreta mailcafe.net 10/26/2005 22:10:24 play online chess	Yep Message: to try blindly - sounds like pathetic. but... It is not so rare in my blitz games... Quit notificable number... But it isn't made specially, but this kind of attack rise from soe positions and could be very effective.
Posted by ionadowman mailcafe.net 10/27/2005 01:39:49 play online chess	Not pathetic... Message: ...Just part of the learning process. Recall that early in one's playing career, one tried 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5!? One learned early on that f7 (and f2) were sensitive spots worth having a crack at. Having encountered the Qg3, Bh6 tactic, you've gotta try it! Gradually you get the idea that it isn't a gimme: the context has to be right, and it may require proper preparation. Perhaps it were better if these players were shown more general tactical tricks, like pins, forks, skewers and various kinds of double attacks and discovered attacks. Not to mention my favorite: Philidor's Legacy...
Posted by premium_steve mailcafe.net 10/27/2005 07:23:42 play online chess	Message: sure... can be pathetic, but don't underestimate the power of the queen (and, more importantly, the vulnerability of your king), even when your position seems much better.
Posted by atrifix mailcafe.net 10/28/2005 10:59:38 play online chess	Message: Ye Jiangchuan-Seirawan, 2003 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. e5 Nd5 7. Bd2 Bxc3 8. bxc3 Be7 9. Qg4 0-0 10. Bh6 g6 11. h4 d6 12. h5 Qa5 13. hxg6 Qxc3+ 14. Ke2 hxg6 15. Bxf8 Kxf8 Here Ye Jiangchuan played 16. Rd1, missing 16. Qf4! with a winning attack. The game ended in a draw.
Posted by evader23 mailcafe.net 10/31/2005 05:10:52 play online chess	Message: I had a few game where what worked. Even the simplies tatic can work if you catch your opponent napping. Or sometime you play a tactic that you know itself won't work but may buy you time to get other pieces out any thats' my two cents on that
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