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Posted by happinessisawarmgun
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11/28/2005
06:39:23

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Subject: 7.f3..in the sicilian dragon.

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Can anyone who plays this line a lot explain to me the purpose of this move. I have just started to look at the dragon and this has struck me as a strange move . Thanks


Posted by odonata
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11/28/2005
07:55:27

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f3 is a quite logical move, it supports the centre pawn on e4 and supports a possible pawn rush with g4.
Propably you are puzzled because in other openings f3 is a clear weaknes for the K-side, yet in the Dragon White usually castles Q-side so f3 is OK.
The dragon is known for it's sharp play with a black pawn rush on the Q-side (towards the enemy King) and a white pawn rush on the K-side.. (yet white can choose for quiter lines by castling also K-side)


Posted by sahsakkchess
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11/28/2005
07:58:07

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7.f3

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This line?

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cd 4. Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg6(If black play 6...Ng4?? after 7. Bb5+ black losing a piece.) 7. f3

I dont play dragon any more but i played and i knew 3 reasons for 7.f3:

1. Overprotect e4 pawn.
2. Stops black to play Ng4.Bishop on e3 is wery important later in attack -Qd2 -Bh6.
3. Prepare g4(without 7. f3 is imposible) h4 king side pawn storm.

Good luck.
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Posted by happinessisawarmgun
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11/28/2005
09:57:06

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thanks guys...

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for your time........good info !!
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Posted by anaxagoras
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11/30/2005
09:42:04

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As sahsakkchess explained, it's to prevent Ng5 once Bb5+ will no longer win a piece. Obviously, it's not necessary if you haven't played Be3.
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Posted by wolstoncroft1
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12/08/2005
02:55:05

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its more to defend the g4 square

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the yugoslav Attack against the Sic Dragon as well as the English Attack in the open sicilian in general both use f3 in the opening. The reason for it is more to prevent Ng4 which would hit the Bishop that was brought from c1 to e3 and also defend the h6 square so that if you move the Queen(as white) to d2 creating a battery with the bishop on e3 before you have played f3 then black moving Ng4 is very strong as it will take the bishop off the board. and the dark bishop for white is usually needed to offset the power of the dragon bishop on g7 from attacking down the a1 -h8 diagonal especially when castled queenside.
1 e4 c5
2 Nf3 d6
3 d4 cxd
4 Nxd4 g6
5 Nc3 Bg7
6 Be3 Nf6
7 f3 -- here you need to defend the g4 square before creating the battery with Qd2(which also clears out for potential 0-0-0)
if not
7 Qd2 Ng4 and white has to decide upon losing his initiative and kingside attack allowing the Bishop to be traded off for blacks knight. The longterm effects for white of not having the dark squared bishop will be that the Bishop on g7 will have an excellent diagonal and will be unopposed he will be blacks best minor piece an will defend well as well as attack so thats why you play f3.
In fischer's games in the open sicilian i have seen him play h3 instead to defend g4 and later he played f4 and so on. but id be careful straying from mainline in the first 10 moves or so because those who play the sicilian dragon know the lines well and will punish you for mistakes.,.


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Posted by happinessisawarmgun
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12/09/2005
12:45:16

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thanks for the help :)
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Posted by wolstoncroft1
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12/19/2005
21:54:19

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You can go to www.chess.fm and under the section towards the bottom of the page there is a section of video lectures by Dr. Danny Kopec IM, there is a link titled fischer illustration. The game that is analyzed shows how fischer used h3 to protect the g4 square and start a kingside attack accordingly... among other themes that are covered.

Tom


Posted by wolstoncroft1
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12/19/2005
21:54:55

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-> video.chess.fm

Posted by happinessisawarmgun
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12/20/2005
13:26:30

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nice video...

Posted by chessplayer20
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1/02/2006
20:37:59

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sicilian players

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what dont sicilian players like in chess like open close or type of opening all that what puts them off ?