This move came from my son nick(xerox on gameknot).
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Chess still struggling to capture imagination of the masses in China — China is a unique phenomenon in world chess. The team only began to compete in around 1970 but within 30 years was a serious contender at men's level and No1 in women's chess. Yet the national game remains Chinese chess and the global version has little public support. The secret has been well-directed government backing to identify young talent and provide intensive coaching. China will be going for medals again at next month's world team Olympiad in Russia, although the home squad will be heavy favourites. China has also created its own elite chess tournament at Nanjing, where the top two finishers qualify for a Grand Slam final against world chess champion Vishy Anand and world No1 ...
Posted by basbos mailcafe.net
1/27/2006 11:16:24 Play online chess | 3....d6
Message: 1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3.d4 d6
The first time to take part in Alekhine defense:-)
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
1/27/2006 11:22:48 Play online chess | 4. Nf3
Message: Lets go modern...
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
1/27/2006 11:30:47 Play online chess | 3. ... d6
Message: 1.e4 Nf6
2.e5 Nd5
3.d4 d6
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Ok, I'll dive in too, and even go with Black.
I played Alekhines Defense in my very first tournament game;
Schizazz-Collister / Omaha, Paxton Manor 1972 ...
and dropped a piece after trying-out the stunning new move "2. ... N-K5".
And so I've never played the opening again, in a tournament.
It can only get Better for Me!
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There is a great line for WT to play in blitz Chess, or perhaps even OTB event.
1.e4 Nf6 2.Bc4 Nxe4 3.Bxf7+ Kxf7 4.Qh5+ g6 etc.
The reason this is a great blitz opening; it puts Black into a position that requires a lot of positional savvy to play properly, and not get buried right out of the opening.
My experience has been that most under about 1800 will not play it well the first time they see it (aka lose) ... and those over 2000 usually will (aka don't lose :) . Given just for a broad generality to indicate some idea of the positional trickiness and the good Surprise Value (as well as the shock value of sac'g so early).
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If the BL King tries to walk forward so as to try to hold onto his Knight, he'll end up losing it anyway aor getting mated. Tho to do it requires WT to play precisely and know his stuff before entering into it ... if its blitz. And as far as I recall, BL is just in BIG trouble if he tries the walk, whether blitz, OTB or Corr. play.
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Unfortunately, the reason it is not a good Corr Chess sequence; there seems to be one line I have come across that gives BL the advantage into the middle game.
-SIGH- [So Whatdo Ya Do?! Another Blitz/OTB-only-Opening is born]
}8-(
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PS// Nice to meet you in the Forums wimpie ; as you know, xerox is a great guy and Chessplayer ... Still, I get to trump you this time. My MOVE came from the World Champion, Alekhine! }8-))
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
1/27/2006 11:32:20 Play online chess | Oh no ... Too SLow !!
Message: Bigger SIGH, my ship came in and I missed the boat {:-((
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
1/28/2006 15:52:42 Play online chess | 4...dxe5
Message: Lets go modern...
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
1/28/2006 15:58:59 Play online chess |
Message: Sorry about that ccmcacollister, I think your line would have been more interesting! ;)
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
1/29/2006 21:17:03 Play online chess | oops
Message: Sorry mattdw, i gotta remember to clean up my pastes. I think that is where we are right? waiting for a white move?
Actually I like that Nf3, Like Tal played :)
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
1/30/2006 03:14:40 Play online chess | 5. Nxe5
Message: No probs!
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5
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Posted by sumsar mailcafe.net
1/30/2006 03:16:36 Play online chess | WHITE MOVE?
Message: BY NOW WHITE HAVE ACTUALLY LOST ON TIME BUT SINCE IT IS COMMON PRACTICE ON GK TO ADD 24 HOURS ON SUNDAYS, THEY WILL HAVE TO 1/30/2006
15:52:42 TO MAKE THEIR MOVE.
COME ON PEOPLE! IT WOULD BE SAD TO END THE GAME ALREADY.
Sumsar
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Posted by sumsar mailcafe.net
1/30/2006 03:18:52 Play online chess | To slow
Message: I see I have the same problems as ccmcacollister... the game is still on then.
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Posted by cairo mailcafe.net
1/30/2006 05:01:18 Play online chess | 5.... e6
Message: Okay I'm trying with this:
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
Bw.
Cairo
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Posted by appelfflap mailcafe.net
1/30/2006 09:43:10 Play online chess | 6. Bd3
Message: 1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3
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Posted by basbos mailcafe.net
1/30/2006 14:33:52 Play online chess | 6....Nc6
Message: 1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
1/30/2006 14:46:41 Play online chess | 7. Nxc6
Message: 1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6...
I wonder if this will be worth the doubled pawns..
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Posted by appelfflap mailcafe.net
1/31/2006 15:41:18 Play online chess | 7....bxc6
Message: did you analyze it Matt? :)
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
1/31/2006 15:52:28 Play online chess |
Message: I gave it a few minutes thought, but in the end I felt that giving black doubled & isolated pawns would make it worth it. Have I actually missed something obvious?! Sorry if I've ruined whites chances already! oops.
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Posted by appelfflap mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 02:25:11 Play online chess |
Message: just kidding. Of course it's worth the double pawn.
but now we need a plan
who has any idea?
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 03:35:10 Play online chess |
Message: Phew! ;)
We need someone to play 7....bxc6 (or something entirely different!) as we have taken moves for white already.
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Posted by sumsar mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 03:57:34 Play online chess | CLARIFICATION
Message: 7...bxc6 IS NOT PLAYED BY BLACK AS appelfflap IS A WHITE PLAYER AND mattdw GAVE THE LAST BLACK MOVE. IT IS STILL BLACK'S MOVE.
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Posted by sumsar mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 03:59:02 Play online chess | SORRY
Message: mattdw IS A WHITE PLAYER ALSO. STILL BLACKS MOVE.
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 04:06:16 Play online chess | Um; er 7... bxc6
Message: 1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
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[I hope this is worth the doubled pawns, TOO! ]
... }8-D
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Posted by appelfflap mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 11:53:40 Play online chess | 8.0-0
Message: hh
seems like nobody wants to play us Matt :)
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 15:41:36 Play online chess |
Message: Hehe :)
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 15:54:09 Play online chess | mattdw & appelfflap ...
Message: If no one will play with you, have you considered it might be a hygeine problem?
It just might be we think our postion stinks !! ... }8-((
[Of course that's never deterred me before, but I'm not allowed to move twice in a row...]
How bout some help for Black, somebody! !! We need a SuperStrength move!
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 16:05:19 Play online chess | Oops
Message: That is supposed to be "POSITION" not postion. See, its got me so nervous looking at the old 'postion' there, I cant even type now! HELP !
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Posted by basbos mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 17:05:40 Play online chess | 8.....Bd6
Message: 1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 17:30:51 Play online chess | ccmcacollister
Message: I swear I had a shower sometime in the last...wait, when was the last time I had a shower?! That'll be why no one wants to play me. :(
;)
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Posted by ionadowman mailcafe.net
2/01/2006 23:22:32 Play online chess | 9.c4...
Message: ...might liven things up...
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4
Is this a book line, by the way? 6.Bd3 is unknown to me...
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Posted by appelfflap mailcafe.net
2/02/2006 12:20:40 Play online chess | unknown to iona
Message: 6.Bd3 was already played by alekhine in '41.
It can't be bad
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
2/03/2006 04:12:05 Play online chess | 9 ... Nf6
Message: Ok, since someone must move! Forever hold thy piece, ye who withheld your preference to now! :)
On the theory, 'sometimes its nice to be able to castle...'
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1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4 Nf6
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Posted by appelfflap mailcafe.net
2/05/2006 01:18:40 Play online chess | 10.Nc3
Message: no queensidecastle for black? :)
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Posted by ionadowman mailcafe.net
2/05/2006 11:56:19 Play online chess | I think not...
Message: ...Black's Q-side is looking a bit porous...
The story so far, including appelfflap's move:
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4 Nf6
10. Nc3
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
2/06/2006 01:04:21 Play online chess |
Message: Go on, castle Queenside, you know you want to.. ;)
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Posted by alberlie mailcafe.net
2/06/2006 02:01:00 Play online chess | Ha!
Message: Like the smell of bacon to the hungy or the jingle of coins to the beggar - such is this position to white!
And I say
0-0
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4 Nf6
10. Nc3 0-0
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Posted by sough mailcafe.net
2/06/2006 02:47:15 Play online chess | 11.Bg5
Message: 11.Bg5 for white, hope it's decent and no one is rolling their eyes hehe!
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Posted by sumsar mailcafe.net
2/07/2006 08:51:28 Play online chess | Times?
Message: I was thinking about raising the times as both Black and White have actually time out in the game. Right now Black would be lost on Time if we followed the rules strickly. What do you think? Should we raise it to tqo days or perhaps 4?
Sumsar
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
2/07/2006 10:10:35 Play online chess | sumar ...
Message: Sounds like a good idea to me, to raise it as you suggested. Personally, I'm happy to play at whatever you decide. Or other players. But I did notice in the past games that the one day did seem to short, as people would eventually come along and add to the game when given a bit more time.
(Just as a thought to mention, not something I'd advocate for real, at this time ... An alternative idea for some future game might be to say that TimeOut applies to the players who have been in the game, and others might come along an pick it up from there?! But probably not workable to do with the present player-base being so small to start with.)
Since it looks like I'm elligible to move again, I'll make one for BL if no one else has by this evening. But I encourage our other BL players to hop in and move instead!
I don't really like to get into a situation that I have to make every second move! So please jump in if you have an idea ~!
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
2/07/2006 10:22:34 Play online chess | PS// What do you think?
Message: Another thing I was wondering about; might it make for more interest & participation if we didnt have to wait the 10 moves to comment? Maybe to reduce that to 4 or 5 or something? -OR-
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For a really different idea: What if we allowed some comment about the game with some restrictions, something like this?!
For instance permit a comment by someone after they move but (a) they cannot mention any particular square nor particular move, nor any piece by its name;and are limited to 4 (at most 5?!)
Words. For EG of fair comment then might be: "attacking WT's best piece" or "pressuring key center squares" or "preceding kingside assault". But not anything like "to take the knight" or "going for Ne4" nor "TAKE THE Knight!!" }8-))
What do you think of this idea, sumsar ? {Whether for this game, or just as a future concept to try out} What does everyone else think of it? To me it sounds like it might add some fun and liveliness ... and a bit more strategic continuity from player to player/ move to move/ of each team ... while yet not "Giving Away" too much? Or would it be too much?
Regards
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Posted by appelfflap mailcafe.net
2/07/2006 14:17:33 Play online chess |
Message: maybe introducing also something like a veto in some cases?
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Posted by premium_steve mailcafe.net
2/07/2006 19:21:38 Play online chess | 11...h6
Message: Not sure if this is the best idea, but I thought I'd try.....
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4 Nf6
10. Nc3 0-0
11. Bg5 h6
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Posted by sumsar mailcafe.net
2/08/2006 07:23:35 Play online chess | NEW RULES!
Message: THE TIMES ARE RASIED TO 2 DAYS AND IT IS NOW ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE FIRST 5 MOVES FOR WHITE AND BLACK.
If you feel like it it I think it is alright to say a few words about the intentions with out being specific (see ccmcacollister 's comment above). Of course it is always fine to much the opposing team (no direct insults please).
Med venlig hilsen Sumsar
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Posted by ionadowman mailcafe.net
2/08/2006 10:56:22 Play online chess | Hey!
Message: What happened to my last contribution? Vanished off the face of the earth!!
Let's have another go... 12. Bh4
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4 Nf6
10. Nc3 0-0
11. Bg5 h6
12. Bh4
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Posted by cairo mailcafe.net
2/08/2006 13:41:58 Play online chess | 12.... Rb8
Message: since black has a open B-file, he might as well take advantage of it and maybe combined this with a minority-attack on the A-file, although whites position looks a bit more promising!
1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4 Nf6
10. Nc3 0-0
11. Bg5 h6
12. Bh4 Rb8
Bw.
Cairo
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Posted by mattdw mailcafe.net
2/10/2006 08:15:21 Play online chess | 13. Rb1...
Message: 1. e4 Nf6
2. e5 Nd5
3. d4 d6
4. Nf3 dxe5
5. Nxe5 e6
6. Bd3 Nc6
7. Nxc6 bxc6
8. O-O Bd6
9. c4 Nf6
10. Nc3 0-0
11. Bg5 h6
12. Bh4 Rb8
13. Rb1...
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