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Posted by brilliance
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2/09/2006
08:54:40

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Subject: Analyzis required.

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This is a game which just ended, between me and sir_durs8. I'll make notes beneath the game with some general thoughts. Comments will be much appreciated. board #4341625

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Bb5 Nd4
5. e5 Nxb5
6. Nxb5 Nd5
7. Ng5 Nb4
8. Qf3 f6
9. exf6 exf6
10. Qh5+ g6
11. Qe2+ Be7
12. Nd6+ Kf8
13. Qc4 Nxc2+
14. Kd1 Kg7
15. Nf5+ gxf5
16. Qf7+ Kh6
17. Ne6 Ne3+
18. Ke2 dxe6
19. dxe3 e5
20. g4 Qe8
21. Qb3 fxg4
22. h3 Kg7
23. hxg4 Bxg4+
24. f3 Qc6
25. e4 Be6
26. Bh6+ Kf7
I resign. 0-1

11. ... Be7? I feel this is a losing move, in a GMgame that chessbase has Qe7 was played, it ended in a win for white.
13. Qc4! I'm certain this is a won position for white. I didn't find the best continution obviously (still can't).
15. Nf5+ Maybe this was THE error. I overlooked the clever Nxc2+ with Ne3 as following.
17. Ne6? Seals the deal.
Everything after this point is just me desperatly trying to find a repeatable draw somewhere, but with accurate play I know that it is futile.
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I'd like someone to use a program to see if there really was a mate or if my feelings deceived me and also, if not, make some specified comments about the further development of the game. Values at some of the moves from chessbase or whatever would also be nice, but not a "must".

Thank you,
Brilliance.


Posted by mattdw
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2/09/2006
09:59:06

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I've set Fritz 9 off analysing it, I'll post the result afterwards. Though I doubt I could give any inisight that you don't know already!

Posted by olean_don
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2/09/2006
10:55:59

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hanges the whole complex of things giving white the better chance of a win. My humble opinion.

Posted by olean_don
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2/09/2006
10:58:03

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sorry somehow did not all print. 13 ngf7 better than Qc4.

Posted by brilliance
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2/09/2006
11:41:15

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...

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Alberlie was kind enough to post the following continuation:
17. d3 Qg8 18. Ne6+ Ne3+ 19. Bxe3+ Qg5 20. Bxg5+ fxg5 21. h4 dxe6 22. hxg5+ Kxg5 23. Qg7+ Kf4 24. Qg3#


Posted by mattdw
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2/09/2006
12:09:24

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olean_don, I don't think [13. Ngf7] would work since taking the rook means hanging the other knight after the queen has moved out of the way. Playing [Nxh8] afterwards would trap the knight eventually leaving white a peice down, though the position still looks strong.

Brilliance, regarding the moves you mentioned, Fritz says.
11...Be7 was a mistake, it gives white the advantage of 3.90 pawns up from 0.59 pawns. It doesn't say much else but I guess it is simply because the bishop is pinned, the threat of the knight fork and mate after Qc4 means the eventual loss of blacks Knight.

13. Qc4 was the best move given by Fritz, like I mentioned above double attack on the knight and a mate threat wins material (though I'm sure you know this!).


14...Kg7 at this point Fritz says you have a mate in 11 possible with 15.Nf5+ being the correct continuation.

17. Ne6? was the error, it puts you from a mate in 9 position to behind by 4.66 pawns according to fritz. The mate from move 17 should have followed: 17. d3 Ne3+ 18. Bxe3 Qg8 19. Ne6+ Qg5 20. Bxg5 fxg5 21. h4 dxe6 22. hxg5+ Kxg5 23. Qg7+ Kf4 24. Qg3#

I hope that's of some help, I've uploaded the .pgn to here---> -> s10.yousendit.com


Posted by mattdw
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2/09/2006
12:11:00

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Looks like Aberlie beat me to it ;)

Posted by brilliance
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2/10/2006
02:42:57

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Thanks

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for all replies. I have the information needed and am very satisfied with all responses.




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