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Posted by longbow57 mailcafe.net
3/24/2008 20:17:14 play online chess | Subject: Stonewall Attack
Message: My favourite d4 opening is the Stonewall Attack, I use it lot in games I play here on Gameknot the line I like is 1 d4-d5 2 f4 I get some interesting postitions with it. I also play against 1 d4-Nf6 2 f4 and 1 d4-g6 2 f4 and also 1 e4-c5 2 f4 I get some strong games with it I love it thanks
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Posted by ionadowman mailcafe.net
3/25/2008 12:15:33 play online chess | longbow57 -
Message: Care to post one or two of your games with this line? I would be interested! I've played one or two Stonewall Defences on GK. The last of these ronald46 vs ionadowman wasn't too successful, costing me a heap of rating points!
Cheers,
Ion
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Posted by longbow57 mailcafe.net
3/25/2008 14:09:55 play online chess | Stonewall Attack one of my games
Message: Longbow57 1510 vs gadam 1538 1 d4-g6 2 f4 -Bg7 3 Nf3-Nf6 4 e3- d5 5 Be2-Nc6 6 o-o - Bf5 7 Nc3- Nb4 8 Bd3- Ne4 9a3- Nxd3 10 cxd3 - Nf6 11 e4 -dxe4 12 dxe4 - Nxe4 13 Ne5 - f6 14 Qa4+ -Bd7 15 Nxd7 -Nxc3 16 Nxf6++ -Kf8 17 Nxh7 - Kg8 18 bxc3 - Rxh7 19 Qc4+ Kf8 20 f5- Resigns 1-0 March 18/ 2008. I have a lot more games not enough room here to put them Thanks
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Posted by tim_b mailcafe.net
3/25/2008 14:56:21 play online chess |
Message: This one? You can get the postable info from analyse the board.
game
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Posted by longbow57 mailcafe.net
3/25/2008 15:07:45 play online chess |
Message: Thank You Sir
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Posted by ionadowman mailcafe.net
3/25/2008 15:56:22 play online chess | Thanks, longbow57...
Message: ... good game. Clinical finish. Although the link given by tim_b is useful, it's kinda nice to have the game laid out here. You can punctuate them with diagrams, too. Especially handy if you don't want to do a full annotation.
The only time anyone tried a Stonewall attack against me, I didn't recognize the opening and had to ask. The fact is, my opponent got the move order wrong - or something - which led to this disaster:
Labour weekend Tournament, Auckland, 1979
White: I.A.D. Black: G.T. Munted Stonewall Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.e3 g6 3.Bd3 ... - I like this posting for the bishop, too...
3...Bg7 4.Ne2?! 0-0 5.Nd2? d3 6.0-0 7Nc6
7.a3? ... - Why not 7.c3, then?
7... e5 8.c3 Re8 9.Ng3 d5 10.dxe5 Nxe5
11.Bc2 h5 12.h3 h4 13.Ne2 Qe7 14.f4? ... At last "getting in" his planned thrust!
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14...Neg4 15.hxg4 Qxe3+ 16.Rf2 Nxg4 17.Ne4(!) Qb6
18.Nd4 dxe4 19.Re2 e6 20.Nf3 Be6 21.Bd3? Rad8
22.Qc2 Bb3 23.Qb1 ...
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23... Nf2? - Sufficient, but 23...Bd1 was way better.
24.Ne5 Nxd3 0-1.
Possibly my opponent was expecting a more direct response to his opening play. I can think of no other explanation for his artificial handling of the opening.
Cheers,
Ion
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Posted by longbow57 mailcafe.net
3/25/2008 16:16:00 play online chess |
Message: I have only seen one book on Stonewall Attack written by GM Andrew Soltis, pubished by Chess Digest I think they have gone out business the owner died . Maybe be able to get on Ebay.com thanks
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Posted by longbow57 mailcafe.net
3/25/2008 22:14:01 play online chess |
Message: The reason I play the Stonewall Attack, because I donot have to study lot of openings it covers a lot of ground. My opening was Queen's Gambit before but to many lines or variations to remember. Remember a saying KISS keep it simple stupid makes a lot sense to me. Thanks
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Posted by ionadowman mailcafe.net
3/26/2008 17:35:04 play online chess | The advantage...
Message: ... of the Stonewall Attack is its clear strategic line; the disadvantage of the Stonewall attack is its clear strategic line.
But the big thing about sticking to an opening like this (or any particular opening) is that you get a lot of experience and understanding of the sort of positions you are likely to reach. If you manage to avoid dropping into routine thinking (which can happen with overfamiliarity with any line of play), you will find yourself more at home in the kind of game you get than your opponents will be.
It's no hardship neither that, despite its apparently 'defensive' appellation, it is an aggressive line. Much more fun.
Cheers,
Ion
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Posted by jamesdriggs mailcafe.net
3/29/2008 20:49:44 play online chess | Colle
Message: If you prefer an easy line, add this line. It is very similar to the stonewall. You don't have to study all the different lines.
Jim
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Posted by houseofcook mailcafe.net
6/10/2008 15:42:03 play online chess | Stonewall Attack
Message: Whats is the best set up against the Stonewall Attack. I got beaten recently when my opponent used it very well. Should I play my c8 Bisop out on the kingside, or should I keep it on the queenside . I suppose a lot of blacks moves depend on the move order of whites.
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Posted by ccmcacollister mailcafe.net
6/10/2008 18:24:35 play online chess | houseofcook ...
Message: My personal preference for BL formation vs the Stonewall Attack is to use a King's Indian formation with: d6, g6, o-o, Nf6, Nbd7, Bg7 and play to break vs the WT center with an ...e5 push; which is considered to equalize rather easily. And such seems to be the case. This also plays well vs a Colle or London formation by WT. Being a common idea, the lines should be available in a number of Opening Texts, like MCO.
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If you prefer a more "classical" formation as BL, then there are a number of good choices for handling of the Queen's Bishop from c8. You can fianchetto with ...b6 and from there play ...Ba6 in such way & time as to try to force the exchange of your Bishop for WT's traditional Bd3 placement, since that is an obviously "good Bishop" and usually a key piece in the WT game plan as well. It may be sac'd at h7 sometimes, or help enforce an e4 push, or used in battery with the WT Queen for pressure, etc.
Alternatively, there is also Bb7 which is very thematic for playing to control the e4 square and often backing-up placement of a BL Ne4.
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It may also be placed upon the King-side. The caution in doing so is that it should not be allowed to become a significant target that temporizes WT's attacking of the K-side. Especially not to be trapped by pawns or forced into passivity such as to Bh7 with a pawn to g6 blocking it or such, as I've seen happen at times. IMO if you are going to play it to the King-side, you must be prepared to trade it or have it traded for. Fortunately, it is often quite alright or even beneficial to see it played to Bg4, then traded for a Knight on f3. Or for a Be2 if WT should happen to choose that less aggressive B placement. It can also be played to Bf4 if one is not afraid to play it from there to the "hole" with Be4, tho it may often be traded for there.
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IMO, in a Stonewall game, the Best Bishop on the board will almost invariably end up being WT's King Bishop, usually Bd3. And I feel that piece is nearly always good & beneficial for BL to capture whether done by Knight or his Bishop. Other than that particular WT Bishop however, I feel that the Knights of both players will usually be better pieces than the other Bishops, in that the opening usually remains substantially closed in the center that is difficult to open, which will severely limit the scope of Bishops, and the existence of the "hole" at e4, as well as other potential outposting chances will probably be quite Knight favorable. So unless there are other considerations involved in the trade, I never fear trading either B for a N in this opening, and generally look forward to that chance. For instance, when the trade is made of a Bg4 playing BxNf3 then it also serves to weaken WT's control of e5, unless he has a Nd2 with which to recapture. It is e4 and e5 that are almost invariably the most importantly contested center squares in the Stonewall.
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Posted by houseofcook mailcafe.net
6/10/2008 22:49:33 play online chess | Stonewall Attack
Message: Thankyou for a very informative and comprehensive reply.
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