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Posted by chessbaker
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10/13/2008
04:00:24

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Subject: WCC

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Tomorrow the match between Anand and Kramnik starts for the world tittle.
Seems that on GK nobody is busy with it.... or am I wrong?
Say something about it; who do you think will win and why,prognoses and etc.
I think Anand will win,but with only one point ahead.In my opinion Kramnik is not so good as Anand.Also physical he looks not so fit. As you see him I found he looks always very tired.But that's my opinion ,so common and let us know what yours
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Posted by heinzkat
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10/13/2008
07:48:26

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"Seems that on GK nobody is busy with it... or am I wrong?"

There is not so much "chess talking" in the forums here, which does not mean there is no interest in chess ...! Of course we will follow the match. Here is a link:

www.uep-chess.com


Posted by ketchuplover
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10/13/2008
11:32:59

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I'm picking Kramnik to win. Just a gut feeling. I'm downloading the foidos thing now. Hopefully I'll be able to watch it live FOR FREE! I'm not paying for it!!
Being that I'm on dial-up I'm cautiosly optimistic.


Posted by chessbaker
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10/13/2008
12:09:24

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wcc

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I can not open that foidos thing.I try it from yesterday morning without success

Posted by heinzkat
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10/13/2008
14:37:58

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If I understand correctly...

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They want you to pay some 90 euros for the software (and you can just follow the WCC then):

www.foidoschess.tv


Posted by heinzkat
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10/13/2008
15:21:43

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...

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Tip: try ChessVibes. So far it has always delivered pretty good covering of events (games, analysis, videos, interviews...); I'm sure in Bonn the coverage will excel again:

www.chessvibes.com

(for example, a video of the opening press conference is available there, and all for free)


Posted by ketchuplover
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10/13/2008
16:13:29

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chess.ca

Posted by pgroenborg
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10/14/2008
05:53:40

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Not my hero

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I'm with Anand all the way, but Kramnik is very, very solid, like a rock. Remember Kramnik was the one to overthrow Kasparovs 15 years reign - and I was hoping for Kasparov at the time.
I am not a fan of Kramniks style, Anand plays a more lively game I think.
However they have battled in more than a hundred games, the score is more than 90 draws and 19 victories for Anand and 15 for Kramnik, so it is going to be very tight, we should be lucky to get more than 2 or 3 decisive games in the match I think, it is only 12 games, a short match.
I really excited about it, although I fear the cold Russian will beat the warm Indian.

Cheers and have fun
Peter
ps spellchecking of above is funny, it doesn't recognise the players mentioned, lol


Posted by blake78613
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10/14/2008
08:23:26

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Anand is certainly a talented player. I am not certain that he has the temperament for match play. Psychologically, I give Kramnik an edge.

Posted by ketchuplover
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10/14/2008
09:54:29

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First game drawn in 32. Semi Slav exchange. Kramnik had white.

Posted by lighttotheright
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10/14/2008
11:39:32

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Well!!!

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That was a rather simple game. I expected something a little more complicated for a World Championship game. There wasn't a whole lot of risk taken on either side.

Given that these guys have played as much as has been stated earlier, I would not expect them to need to feel each other out that much. But that was the sense I got from just observing the moves only. They seemed to be testing what each other might do.


Posted by ccmcacollister
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10/14/2008
12:20:14

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Light, then I would suspect ....

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That if the players are starting slow, they are seeking to see what can be gained on their own talents and saving the TN's and Improvements for a more critical point. Which will also give the other side less time to switch openings and study something like that. I havent actually seen the game yet. Maybe too to get comfortable with the venue and cast of characters involved. Maybe they just dont have much new ... cough, choke. Yeah, the Russian #1 and th\\Champ with most the rest of the world behind him ... I also suspect they will have a few things in store to dazzle us. ( Got to admit it, even seen a senior ccm make even a Petroff dazzle once. Ah gosh that was HARD ...oh, and of course it did Draw :))

Posted by pgroenborg
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10/14/2008
12:55:00

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Numbers

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I read about that high number of games between them somewhere on the net, can't recall the source right now, think it was Chess Vibes, but not sure. Other bloggers use different source? i.e. wikipedia has this to say:
Viswanathan Anand and Vladimir Kramnik have played 51 classical chess games, of which Kramnik won six, Anand took four wins, and 41 games were drawn.

In rapid games, the score is 10–2 in favour of Anand with 34 draws. In blitz the score is 2–2 with four draws. In the blindfold games the score is 4–3 in favour of Kramnik with six draws. In Advanced Chess Kramnik leads 1–0 with seven draws.


Posted by ketchuplover
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10/15/2008
10:31:51

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Game two drawn. More lively than game one imo. I think Kramnik should've tried Rd2 on move 31

Posted by lighttotheright
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10/16/2008
10:28:24

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If 31, ,,, Rd2 then 32. Bb3. Kramnik didn't have an effective attack here.

Posted by lighttotheright
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10/16/2008
10:52:11

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I was trying to think of something else Annand could have tried instead of the queen swap on move 19. If 19. Be7 Rde8 20. Bg5 Qc5 21, h3 h6, Black looks OK and White would probably have to look for a drawn position anyway.

Posted by ccmcacollister
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10/17/2008
16:30:23

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already ...

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A win for Anand. That's a pretty quick score on K.

Posted by lighttotheright
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10/17/2008
22:26:56

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Now that was a good and exciting game! That's the kind that we expect from a World Champion.

Posted by vulpecula
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10/20/2008
09:05:24

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Another win for Vishy

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Can anyone see Kramnik recovering from this ??

Regards, Guy


Posted by ketchuplover
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10/20/2008
09:29:25

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Stick a fork in Kramnik. He's done.

Posted by ogedei
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10/20/2008
11:37:46

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oy

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Just when Kramnik has two Blacks in a row, too...

Time to come out swinging with Black for the first time in years, Vlad.

Good luck with that!


Posted by cairo
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10/20/2008
13:56:42

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It

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certainly look rather overwhelming for Kramnik and I personally hope that Anand goes all the way, but don't count Kramnik out yet, he is known as a gritty competitor when it looks worse......

best wishes
Cairo


Posted by ogedei
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10/21/2008
11:41:31

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Game 6

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Wow.

It seems that Anand is working to to prove the old (and heretofore discredited) adage that, "great players never castle!"

It's a great match, but let's hope Vlad can find his form quickly so that we have some competitive games.

It's tough to watch won of your chess heroes going down in flames...


Posted by ccmcacollister
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10/21/2008
12:32:32

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ouch~!

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Says Anand to Kramnick?
www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqeSUAlI5uI&feature=PlayList&p=03E110C6C3A1931B&index=2&playnext=3&playnext_from=PL


Posted by ccmcacollister
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10/21/2008
12:43:58

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btw ...

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1.I know Anand is just too polite to actually Say It ...

2. Thats an extended play you have never heard, I bet.


Posted by ketchuplover
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10/27/2008
16:39:43

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kramnik wins game 10. Anand leads 6-4. Play resumes Wednesday.




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